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		<title>Comment on [007] Disgust. by lporter</title>
		<link>http://minliank09.kiswrites.org/2008/04/17/007-disgust/#comment-34</link>
		<author>lporter</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 18:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://minliank09.kiswrites.org/2008/04/17/007-disgust/#comment-34</guid>
		<description>Hey Cathy, did you trackback to Hanna?  So very cool when bloggers from other countries post a comment on your blog.  

I've wondered a little about the labeling effect as well.  One answer that some teachers around the world have had is to work to make assignments difficult to cheat.  

The thing is that we (as in the world) is such a remix -- cooperative culture that what is cheating will eventually need to be redefined.  

For me, I'm more upset that the student is ultimately cheating him or herself by plagiarizing and wasting my time.

Last year in the first month at KIS, I caught 27 plagiarized papers.  This month only 2.  People are getting smarter, but I actually think they are more educated as to what the teachers consider to be plagiarism and work to do their own thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Cathy, did you trackback to Hanna?  So very cool when bloggers from other countries post a comment on your blog.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve wondered a little about the labeling effect as well.  One answer that some teachers around the world have had is to work to make assignments difficult to cheat.  </p>
<p>The thing is that we (as in the world) is such a remix &#8212; cooperative culture that what is cheating will eventually need to be redefined.  </p>
<p>For me, I&#8217;m more upset that the student is ultimately cheating him or herself by plagiarizing and wasting my time.</p>
<p>Last year in the first month at KIS, I caught 27 plagiarized papers.  This month only 2.  People are getting smarter, but I actually think they are more educated as to what the teachers consider to be plagiarism and work to do their own thing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on [007] Disgust. by anniexbananie</title>
		<link>http://minliank09.kiswrites.org/2008/04/17/007-disgust/#comment-33</link>
		<author>anniexbananie</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 10:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://minliank09.kiswrites.org/2008/04/17/007-disgust/#comment-33</guid>
		<description>It annoys me too to hear teachers talking about Korean students like that - they might find it easier to label us because KIS high school is almost 100% Koreans, so they think everything they say goes out to the general public, but it isn't right.  I've also heard teachers at our school say things like, "I mean, I know Korean students are especially big procrastinators, but ...." and "You know, Korean people can never finish what they started," and it makes me angry seeing how inconsiderate and stereotypical they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It annoys me too to hear teachers talking about Korean students like that - they might find it easier to label us because KIS high school is almost 100% Koreans, so they think everything they say goes out to the general public, but it isn&#8217;t right.  I&#8217;ve also heard teachers at our school say things like, &#8220;I mean, I know Korean students are especially big procrastinators, but &#8230;.&#8221; and &#8220;You know, Korean people can never finish what they started,&#8221; and it makes me angry seeing how inconsiderate and stereotypical they are.</p>
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		<title>Comment on [007] Disgust. by minliank09</title>
		<link>http://minliank09.kiswrites.org/2008/04/17/007-disgust/#comment-32</link>
		<author>minliank09</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 04:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://minliank09.kiswrites.org/2008/04/17/007-disgust/#comment-32</guid>
		<description>Hannah// I'm glad to hear that Asians aren't seen as "number-crunching machines" there in the states. 
The "no child left behind" policy really strikes interesting. It has a sharp contrast with the Korean mentality towards education. If the US holds equity, Korea would go for efficiency [as they would say in econ]. It's all about competition and "leaving" others behind here in Korea. Though, we rarely compete with close friends- instead try to help each other out. I think that's where the Asians extra-copy myth came from. : [</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hannah// I&#8217;m glad to hear that Asians aren&#8217;t seen as &#8220;number-crunching machines&#8221; there in the states.<br />
The &#8220;no child left behind&#8221; policy really strikes interesting. It has a sharp contrast with the Korean mentality towards education. If the US holds equity, Korea would go for efficiency [as they would say in econ]. It&#8217;s all about competition and &#8220;leaving&#8221; others behind here in Korea. Though, we rarely compete with close friends- instead try to help each other out. I think that&#8217;s where the Asians extra-copy myth came from. : [</p>
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		<title>Comment on [007] Disgust. by Hannah</title>
		<link>http://minliank09.kiswrites.org/2008/04/17/007-disgust/#comment-31</link>
		<author>Hannah</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://minliank09.kiswrites.org/2008/04/17/007-disgust/#comment-31</guid>
		<description>It's most definitely a world-wide phenomenon. Kids cheat all the time on assignments in America. I'll go ahead and say I copied the answers to a lab sheet from my friend last week. Will anyone notice? No. Plagiarizing is more of a problem than cheating. Can you say Wikipedia?

Asians aren't seen as "number-crunching machines" here though. They're positively stereotyped as hard workers. There are so many media stories about how Asia is going to take over and how American students are lazy and stupid because Asians do so much better on tests, especially in math and science. It's pretty much the basis of our entire educational system: No Child Left Behind. Unfortunately, in the rush to improve our test scores and push ahead of Asia a lot of kids are getting left behind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s most definitely a world-wide phenomenon. Kids cheat all the time on assignments in America. I&#8217;ll go ahead and say I copied the answers to a lab sheet from my friend last week. Will anyone notice? No. Plagiarizing is more of a problem than cheating. Can you say Wikipedia?</p>
<p>Asians aren&#8217;t seen as &#8220;number-crunching machines&#8221; here though. They&#8217;re positively stereotyped as hard workers. There are so many media stories about how Asia is going to take over and how American students are lazy and stupid because Asians do so much better on tests, especially in math and science. It&#8217;s pretty much the basis of our entire educational system: No Child Left Behind. Unfortunately, in the rush to improve our test scores and push ahead of Asia a lot of kids are getting left behind.</p>
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		<title>Comment on [007] Disgust. by minliank09</title>
		<link>http://minliank09.kiswrites.org/2008/04/17/007-disgust/#comment-30</link>
		<author>minliank09</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 11:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://minliank09.kiswrites.org/2008/04/17/007-disgust/#comment-30</guid>
		<description>Alex// One vote on the former. Screwed in a downward spiral it is, my friend.

Jennifer// Exactly. True story: I've never dared to cheat during my few years in Korean School; however I admit cheating once or twice in my American school before, 'cuase my Motha F-ing partner was cheating off me. One day I decide to cheat off him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex// One vote on the former. Screwed in a downward spiral it is, my friend.</p>
<p>Jennifer// Exactly. True story: I&#8217;ve never dared to cheat during my few years in Korean School; however I admit cheating once or twice in my American school before, &#8216;cuase my Motha F-ing partner was cheating off me. One day I decide to cheat off him.</p>
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		<title>Comment on [007] Disgust. by jenniferr09</title>
		<link>http://minliank09.kiswrites.org/2008/04/17/007-disgust/#comment-29</link>
		<author>jenniferr09</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://minliank09.kiswrites.org/2008/04/17/007-disgust/#comment-29</guid>
		<description>Well said about the labeling effect, Cathy!!! Some of the stereotypes about the Koreans are just... not true. I mean, it's SO OK to cheat in Korea that one of my friends who go to Korean public school got a ZERO on her FINAL exam for cheating even though she didn't DO it. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said about the labeling effect, Cathy!!! Some of the stereotypes about the Koreans are just&#8230; not true. I mean, it&#8217;s SO OK to cheat in Korea that one of my friends who go to Korean public school got a ZERO on her FINAL exam for cheating even though she didn&#8217;t DO it. <img src='http://minliank09.kiswrites.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>Comment on [007] Disgust. by Soojin</title>
		<link>http://minliank09.kiswrites.org/2008/04/17/007-disgust/#comment-28</link>
		<author>Soojin</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://minliank09.kiswrites.org/2008/04/17/007-disgust/#comment-28</guid>
		<description>that was a misconception I made 'on purpose' to clearly show that white people and american culture are targets of stereotypes as well. ;p that's why I said 'revenge intended' in the parenthesis to let people know that i know what i'm doing
anyways life is cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that was a misconception I made &#8216;on purpose&#8217; to clearly show that white people and american culture are targets of stereotypes as well. ;p that&#8217;s why I said &#8216;revenge intended&#8217; in the parenthesis to let people know that i know what i&#8217;m doing<br />
anyways life is cool.</p>
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		<title>Comment on [007] Disgust. by alex:)</title>
		<link>http://minliank09.kiswrites.org/2008/04/17/007-disgust/#comment-27</link>
		<author>alex:)</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://minliank09.kiswrites.org/2008/04/17/007-disgust/#comment-27</guid>
		<description>Would this labeling effect make more students cheat, (because of the self-fulfilling prophecy and all) or would it encourage students to change this misconception? If it isn't the latter, we're just stuck in a downward spiral.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would this labeling effect make more students cheat, (because of the self-fulfilling prophecy and all) or would it encourage students to change this misconception? If it isn&#8217;t the latter, we&#8217;re just stuck in a downward spiral.</p>
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		<title>Comment on [007] Disgust. by minliank09</title>
		<link>http://minliank09.kiswrites.org/2008/04/17/007-disgust/#comment-26</link>
		<author>minliank09</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 01:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://minliank09.kiswrites.org/2008/04/17/007-disgust/#comment-26</guid>
		<description>What? now you’re creating a misconception too.
I think my point is not to do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What? now you’re creating a misconception too.<br />
I think my point is not to do that.</p>
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		<title>Comment on [007] Disgust. by soojin</title>
		<link>http://minliank09.kiswrites.org/2008/04/17/007-disgust/#comment-24</link>
		<author>soojin</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://minliank09.kiswrites.org/2008/04/17/007-disgust/#comment-24</guid>
		<description>Teachers who said Koreans cheat were probably all blond :] (revenge intended to American culture)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teachers who said Koreans cheat were probably all blond :] (revenge intended to American culture)</p>
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